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 ====== Repudiation of Stoicism in Dialogues of the Dead? ====== ====== Repudiation of Stoicism in Dialogues of the Dead? ======
  
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 In Dialogues of the Dead XXI, Lucian seems to be proposing an argument against the ethics of Stoicism. Lucian's use of the paradigm of Socrates, considered a sage by all ancient authorities, is very clever. See here: In Dialogues of the Dead XXI, Lucian seems to be proposing an argument against the ethics of Stoicism. Lucian's use of the paradigm of Socrates, considered a sage by all ancient authorities, is very clever. See here:
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 When people spoke of indifference in Lucian's time, Stoicism almost had to have come up in the conversation. I think Lucian is pointing out how impossible the Stoic notion of indifference in the face of adversity is. If even the uber-sage Socrates looked into the abyss and was spooked, then how is anyone else supposed to survive the experience with complete indifference? The trip to Hades is tough for everyone and the only philosophy that can prepare one for the journey is the crude Cynicism of Diogenes and Menippus. They were so well practiced in their art, they went to Hades willingly. Socrates, even though it may seem he wanted to make the trip to Hades, couldn't cut it after all. When people spoke of indifference in Lucian's time, Stoicism almost had to have come up in the conversation. I think Lucian is pointing out how impossible the Stoic notion of indifference in the face of adversity is. If even the uber-sage Socrates looked into the abyss and was spooked, then how is anyone else supposed to survive the experience with complete indifference? The trip to Hades is tough for everyone and the only philosophy that can prepare one for the journey is the crude Cynicism of Diogenes and Menippus. They were so well practiced in their art, they went to Hades willingly. Socrates, even though it may seem he wanted to make the trip to Hades, couldn't cut it after all.
  
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