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 learn by means of fiction, nor appropriate for the  learn by means of fiction, nor appropriate for the 
 Cynic to invent that sort of thing at all, why did we  Cynic to invent that sort of thing at all, why did we 
-not spare that wasteful expense, and moreover why +not spare that wasteful expense, and moreover why 
 did we waste our time in inventing and composing  did we waste our time in inventing and composing 
 trivial myths and then making stories of them and  trivial myths and then making stories of them and 
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 navigators ? Because, as people say, they despise  navigators ? Because, as people say, they despise 
 death ; as though bandits were not inspired by the  death ; as though bandits were not inspired by the 
-same frenzied courage ! So says at any rate he who +same frenzied courage ! So says at any rate he who 
 with you counts as a poet and mythologist, though, as  with you counts as a poet and mythologist, though, as 
 a Pythian god proclaimed to certain bandits who  a Pythian god proclaimed to certain bandits who 
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 they entertain their friends with similes and myths,  they entertain their friends with similes and myths, 
 like the wise men of to-day. For as Euripides well  like the wise men of to-day. For as Euripides well 
-says, "Simple and unadorned is the language of +says, "Simple and unadorned is the language of 
 truth." Only the liar and the dishonest man, he  truth." Only the liar and the dishonest man, he 
 says, have any use for a mysterious and allusive style.  says, have any use for a mysterious and allusive style. 
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 dently try to see what sort of myths they must be  dently try to see what sort of myths they must be 
 that suit one or the other of those two branches of  that suit one or the other of those two branches of 
-philosophy; and no longer need we call in the aid of +philosophy; and no longer need we call in the aid of 
 witnesses from the remote past for all points, but we  witnesses from the remote past for all points, but we 
-will follow in the fresh footprints of one whom +will follow in the fresh footprints of one whom 
 next to the gods I revere and admire, yes, equally  next to the gods I revere and admire, yes, equally 
 with Aristotle and Plato. He does not treat of all  with Aristotle and Plato. He does not treat of all 
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 to contend with, I mean lack of food and loneliness ;  to contend with, I mean lack of food and loneliness ; 
 and then there is his journey over the sea itself in  and then there is his journey over the sea itself in 
-a golden cup, though, by the gods, I do not think it +a golden cup, though, by the gods, I do not think it 
 was really a cup, but my belief is that he himself  was really a cup, but my belief is that he himself 
-walked on the sea as though it were dry land. For +walked on the sea as though it were dry land. For 
 what was impossible to Heracles ? Which was there  what was impossible to Heracles ? Which was there 
 of the so-called elements that did not obey his  of the so-called elements that did not obey his 
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 birth, Zeus in the pangs of travail came to the  birth, Zeus in the pangs of travail came to the 
 nymphs, and they by their song over the thigh  nymphs, and they by their song over the thigh 
-"Undo the stitching " brought to light for us the +"Undo the stitching " brought to light for us the 
 dithyramb. Whereupon the god was driven mad by  dithyramb. Whereupon the god was driven mad by 
 Hera, but the Mother of the Gods healed him of his  Hera, but the Mother of the Gods healed him of his 
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 in sacred things ? For she was J;he daughter of  in sacred things ? For she was J;he daughter of 
 Phoenician Cadmus, and the god himself bears  Phoenician Cadmus, and the god himself bears 
-witness to the wisdom of the Phoenicians when he +witness to the wisdom of the Phoenicians when he 
 says " The Phoenicians too have learned many of the  says " The Phoenicians too have learned many of the 
-roads travelled by the blessed gods." I think then +roads travelled by the blessed gods." I think then 
 that she was the first among the Greeks to perceive  that she was the first among the Greeks to perceive 
 that there was to be before long a visible manifes-  that there was to be before long a visible manifes- 
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 father Zeus among the intelligible gods, and further  father Zeus among the intelligible gods, and further 
 his birth independently of generation in this our  his birth independently of generation in this our 
-world. ... in the whole universe, and in their proper +world. ... in the whole universe, and in their proper 
 order all those other facts which are well worth  order all those other facts which are well worth 
 studying but too difficult for me at any rate to  studying but too difficult for me at any rate to 
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 impudence, the insolence, and in a word everything  impudence, the insolence, and in a word everything 
 of the sort. They say that they are travelling the  of the sort. They say that they are travelling the 
-short and ready road to virtue. I would that you +short and ready road to virtue. I would that you 
 were going by the longer ! For you would more  were going by the longer ! For you would more 
 easily arrive by that road than by this of yours.  easily arrive by that road than by this of yours. 
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 instrument.  instrument. 
  
-So much for that, as the saying is. Now to go  +So much for that, as the saying is. Now to go  
-back to the point at which I digressed. Since, as I +back to the point at which I digressed. Since, as I 
 was saying, myths ought to be addressed either to  was saying, myths ought to be addressed either to 
 those who though grown men are children in intelli-  those who though grown men are children in intelli- 
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 myth-maker.  myth-maker. 
  
-A certain rich man had numerous flocks of sheep  +A certain rich man had numerous flocks of sheep  
-and herds of cattle and "ranging flocks of goats" +and herds of cattle and "ranging flocks of goats" 
 and many times ten thousand mares ' ( grazed his  and many times ten thousand mares ' ( grazed his 
-marsh-meadows." Many shepherds too he had, +marsh-meadows." Many shepherds too he had, 
 both slaves and hired freedmeii, neatherds and goat-  both slaves and hired freedmeii, neatherds and goat- 
 herds and grooms for his horses, and many estates  herds and grooms for his horses, and many estates 
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 themselves had had no better education. Then  themselves had had no better education. Then 
 ensued a general slaughter, and heaven brought the  ensued a general slaughter, and heaven brought the 
-tragic curse to fulfilment. For " by the edge of the +tragic curse to fulfilment. For " by the edge of the 
 sword they divided their patrimony" and everything  sword they divided their patrimony" and everything 
 was thrown into confusion. The sons demolished the  was thrown into confusion. The sons demolished the 
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 Now when all was in confusion, and many mar-  Now when all was in confusion, and many mar- 
-riages that were no marriages were being con- +riages that were no marriages were being con- 
 cluded, and the laws of god and man alike had  cluded, and the laws of god and man alike had 
 been profaned, Zeus was moved with compassion  been profaned, Zeus was moved with compassion 
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 filth and darkness and there is danger that the spark  filth and darkness and there is danger that the spark 
 of fire which thou didst implant in him will be  of fire which thou didst implant in him will be 
-quenched, unless thou clothe thyself with might. +quenched, unless thou clothe thyself with might. 
 Take care of him therefore and rear him. For I and  Take care of him therefore and rear him. For I and 
 the Fates yield thee this task." When King Helios  the Fates yield thee this task." When King Helios 
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 he reared the child whom he had withdrawn " from  he reared the child whom he had withdrawn " from 
 the blood and noise of war and the slaughter of  the blood and noise of war and the slaughter of 
-men." And father Zeus bade Athene also, the +men." And father Zeus bade Athene also, the 
 Motherless Maiden, share with Helios the task  Motherless Maiden, share with Helios the task 
 of bringing up the child. And when, thus reared,  of bringing up the child. And when, thus reared, 
 he had become a youth " With the first down on his  he had become a youth " With the first down on his 
-chin, when youth has all its charms," he learned +chin, when youth has all its charms," he learned 
 the numerous disasters that had befallen his kinsmen  the numerous disasters that had befallen his kinsmen 
 and his cousins., and had all but hurled himself into  and his cousins., and had all but hurled himself into 
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 of this mountain dwells the father of all the gods.  of this mountain dwells the father of all the gods. 
 Be careful then for herein lies the greatest risk  Be careful then for herein lies the greatest risk 
-of all to worship him with the utmost piety and +of all to worship him with the utmost piety and 
 ask of him whatever thou wilt. Thou wilt choose, ask of him whatever thou wilt. Thou wilt choose,
 my child, only what is best." So saying Hermes  my child, only what is best." So saying Hermes 
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 arms he had brought with him. And when she saw  arms he had brought with him. And when she saw 
 his shield and sword and spear, she said, " But where,  his shield and sword and spear, she said, " But where, 
-my child, is thy aegis and thy helmet ? " e ' Even +my child, is thy aegis and thy helmet ? " e ' Even 
 these that I have," he replied, " procured with  these that I have," he replied, " procured with 
 difficulty. For in the house of my kinsfolk there  difficulty. For in the house of my kinsfolk there 
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 warning also do thou heed, my son. Yonder man  warning also do thou heed, my son. Yonder man 
 slumbers, and hence he is often deceived, but do  slumbers, and hence he is often deceived, but do 
-thou be sober and vigilant, lest the flatterer assume +thou be sober and vigilant, lest the flatterer assume 
 the frankness of a friend and so deceive thee ; which  the frankness of a friend and so deceive thee ; which 
 is as though a smith covered with smoke and cinders  is as though a smith covered with smoke and cinders 
 should come wearing a white garment and with his  should come wearing a white garment and with his 
 face painted white, and thus induce thee to give him  face painted white, and thus induce thee to give him 
-one of thy daughters in marriage. My third +one of thy daughters in marriage. My third 
 warning to thee is this : do thou very zealously keep  warning to thee is this : do thou very zealously keep 
 watch over thyself, and reverence us in the first  watch over thyself, and reverence us in the first 
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 ance of a mouth that foams with morbid rather  ance of a mouth that foams with morbid rather 
 than inspired madness ? l Do you not know that  than inspired madness ? l Do you not know that 
-Salmoneus in his day was punished by the gods for +Salmoneus in his day was punished by the gods for 
 just this, for attempting, though a mortal man, to  just this, for attempting, though a mortal man, to 
 play the part of Zeus ? Then too there is the  play the part of Zeus ? Then too there is the 
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 philosopher l now present : and later on I arrived at  philosopher l now present : and later on I arrived at 
 the threshold of philosophy to be initiated therein  the threshold of philosophy to be initiated therein 
-by the teaching of one whom I consider superior to +by the teaching of one whom I consider superior to 
 all the men of my own time. He used to teach me  all the men of my own time. He used to teach me 
 to practise virtue before all else, and to regard the  to practise virtue before all else, and to regard the 
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 insolence as yours, and tried to make me more  insolence as yours, and tried to make me more 
 temperate than I was by nature. And though, as you  temperate than I was by nature. And though, as you 
-know, I was armed with great external advantages, +know, I was armed with great external advantages, 
 nevertheless submitted myself to my preceptor and  nevertheless submitted myself to my preceptor and 
 to his friends and compeers and the philosophers of  to his friends and compeers and the philosophers of 
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 the ill-sounding phrase and fill in the blank yourself !  the ill-sounding phrase and fill in the blank yourself ! 
 Or rather, if you please, bear with me when I " put  Or rather, if you please, bear with me when I " put 
-it mildly " " what part or lot have you in it ? " You +it mildly " " what part or lot have you in it ? " You 
 criticise everybody, though you yourself do nothing  criticise everybody, though you yourself do nothing 
 to deserve praise ; your praises are in worse taste  to deserve praise ; your praises are in worse taste 
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 full of soft, deep grass," and the " scent of  full of soft, deep grass," and the " scent of 
 flowers," and "the season of spring," and other  flowers," and "the season of spring," and other 
-figures of the same sort. When did Isocrates ever +figures of the same sort. When did Isocrates ever 
 do this in his panegyrics ? Or when did anyone of  do this in his panegyrics ? Or when did anyone of 
 those ancient writers who were genuine votaries of  those ancient writers who were genuine votaries of 
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 Plato ? What was Aristotle's attitude in these  Plato ? What was Aristotle's attitude in these 
 matters ? Is it not worth while to pay attention to  matters ? Is it not worth while to pay attention to 
-this ? Or surely no one will deny that he of Samos +this ? Or surely no one will deny that he of Samos 
 was reverent ? For he did not even allow the names  was reverent ? For he did not even allow the names 
 of the gods to be used on a seal, nor oaths to be  of the gods to be used on a seal, nor oaths to be 
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 ever name pleases her best ; though as for pleasure,  ever name pleases her best ; though as for pleasure, 
 I know that it has many forms." This is what  I know that it has many forms." This is what 
-he says in the Philebus and he says the same sort  +he says in the Philebus and he says the same sort  
-of thing again in the Timaeus. For he says that we +of thing again in the Timaeus. For he says that we 
 ought to believe directly and without proof what we  ought to believe directly and without proof what we 
 are told, I mean what the poets say about the gods.  are told, I mean what the poets say about the gods. 
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 those things that we are permitted to declare, some,  those things that we are permitted to declare, some, 
 it seems to me, we ought to refrain from uttering to  it seems to me, we ought to refrain from uttering to 
-the vulgar crowd. However the explanation in this +the vulgar crowd. However the explanation in this 
 case is obvious. For since he perceived that the  case is obvious. For since he perceived that the 
 man who exhorted him to be initiated neglected to  man who exhorted him to be initiated neglected to 
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 what the hierophant proclaims, when he refuses the  what the hierophant proclaims, when he refuses the 
 rite of initiation to him " whose hands are not pure  rite of initiation to him " whose hands are not pure 
-or who for any reason ought not ! +or who for any reason ought not ! " 
  
 But where would this discourse end if you are  But where would this discourse end if you are 
 still unconvinced by what I have said ? still unconvinced by what I have said ?
  
 +//The Loeb Classical Library, Edited by T. E. Page, Litt.D. and W. H. D. Rouse, Litt.D. The Works of the Emporer Julian, Volume II with an English Translation by Winmer Cave Wright, Ph. D.//
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